smart display support

Not that I own one, but I think it's worth noting this. Smart Displays failed because it, other than its expensive price tag and conflicting sales proposition with the much-superior Tablet PC, it forces home users who typically run Windows XP Home Edition to upgrade to Windows XP Professional.
That just ruined the first-time experience with Smart Displays: you gotta upgrade to Pro first to use the device.
Now, is there going to be any *unique* features to *revive* sales and enthusiasm of Smart Displays, inclduing support for the much needed *dual-session* feature of Windows Vista so that one person can use the Smart Display and another can use the main computer all at the same time? I think a little bit of special features for the Smart Display can really comfort the poor people who bought this product and ended up with no further enhancements.
Maybe unique features like "mirror" for parents to monitor their kids PC activities? How about something as simple as shared desktop where you share the same session with the person in front of the main computer? Even more simpler is make it into a communications device... just don't let Smart Displays die for good... (anyway MS started all this didn't they?)

I don't think Microsoft has any interest in this technology anymore, it will just fade out when XP is discontinued. Smart Display was just Tablet PC I personally believe with Media Center Capabilities based on Remote Desktop. I think Windows Vista will integrate most of this functionality in the base OS, especially with Tablet PC (Inking) and Media Center capabilities becoming a part of the base OS.
If you are looking for extended functionality for your Smart Display, the manufacturer of the device is best source for continued support and updates. -- -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm <Nicholas> wrote in message

Not that I own one, but I think it's worth noting this. Smart Displays failed because it, other than its expensive price tag and conflicting sales proposition with the much-superior Tablet PC, it forces home users who typically run Windows XP Home Edition to upgrade to Windows XP Professional.
That just ruined the first-time experience with Smart Displays: you gotta upgrade to Pro first to use the device.
Now, is there going to be any *unique* features to *revive* sales and enthusiasm of Smart Displays, inclduing support for the much needed *dual-session* feature of Windows Vista so that one person can use the Smart Display and another can use the main computer all at the same time? I think a little bit of special features for the Smart Display can really comfort the poor people who bought this product and ended up with no further enhancements.
Maybe unique features like "mirror" for parents to monitor their kids PC activities? How about something as simple as shared desktop where you share the same session with the person in front of the main computer? Even more simpler is make it into a communications device... just don't let Smart Displays die for good... (anyway MS started all this didn't they?)

Hi,
As I mentioned I don't own a Smart Display but instead a Tablet, but I do pity the device. hmmm... I don't think the SD has Media Center capabilities (or did you just confuse it with Windows Home Concept?) and it's not quite a Tablet either (it doesn't support Digital Ink in fact), MS called it "the evolution of the monitor", but yes I do believe its based on Remote Desktop using WiFi (so I think you cold bring one to the coffee shop and WiFi all the way back to your home computer (given it's turned on). The end of a great concept, oh well...
"Andre Da Costa" :eWW7R4vJGHA.3200@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

I don't think Microsoft has any interest in this technology anymore, it will just fade out when XP is discontinued. Smart Display was just Tablet PC I personally believe with Media Center Capabilities based on Remote Desktop. I think Windows Vista will integrate most of this functionality in the base OS, especially with Tablet PC (Inking) and Media Center capabilities becoming a part of the base OS.
If you are looking for extended functionality for your Smart Display, the manufacturer of the device is best source for continued support and updates. -- -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm Nicholas> wrote in message Not that I own one, but I think it's worth noting this. Smart Displays failed because it, other than its expensive price tag and conflicting sales proposition with the much-superior Tablet PC, it forces home users who typically run Windows XP Home Edition to upgrade to Windows XP Professional.
That just ruined the first-time experience with Smart Displays: you gotta upgrade to Pro first to use the device.
Now, is there going to be any *unique* features to *revive* sales and enthusiasm of Smart Displays, inclduing support for the much needed *dual-session* feature of Windows Vista so that one person can use the Smart Display and another can use the main computer all at the same time? I think a little bit of special features for the Smart Display can really comfort the poor people who bought this product and ended up with no further enhancements.
Maybe unique features like "mirror" for parents to monitor their kids PC activities? How about something as simple as shared desktop where you share the same session with the person in front of the main computer? Even more simpler is make it into a communications device... just don't let Smart Displays die for good... (anyway MS started all this didn't they?)

Yeah, maybe I was mis-intepreting the touch input capabilities with Tablet PC. I remember the advertising on the Microsoft web site years ago, a girl in her bed room with a View Sonic display. The Tablet I would say is a better, value base superior successor its getting more popular and popular each year. -- -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm <Nicholas> wrote in message

Hi,
As I mentioned I don't own a Smart Display but instead a Tablet, but I do pity the device. hmmm... I don't think the SD has Media Center capabilities (or did you just confuse it with Windows Home Concept?) and it's not quite a Tablet either (it doesn't support Digital Ink in fact), MS called it "the evolution of the monitor", but yes I do believe its based on Remote Desktop using WiFi (so I think you cold bring one to the coffee shop and WiFi all the way back to your home computer (given it's turned on). The end of a great concept, oh well...
"Andre Da Costa" <andred25@hotmail.com :eWW7R4vJGHA.3200@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... I don't think Microsoft has any interest in this technology anymore, it will just fade out when XP is discontinued. Smart Display was just Tablet PC I personally believe with Media Center Capabilities based on Remote Desktop. I think Windows Vista will integrate most of this functionality in the base OS, especially with Tablet PC (Inking) and Media Center capabilities becoming a part of the base OS.
If you are looking for extended functionality for your Smart Display, the manufacturer of the device is best source for continued support and updates. -- -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm Nicholas> wrote in message Not that I own one, but I think it's worth noting this. Smart Displays failed because it, other than its expensive price tag and conflicting sales proposition with the much-superior Tablet PC, it forces home users who typically run Windows XP Home Edition to upgrade to Windows XP Professional.
That just ruined the first-time experience with Smart Displays: you gotta upgrade to Pro first to use the device.
Now, is there going to be any *unique* features to *revive* sales and enthusiasm of Smart Displays, inclduing support for the much needed *dual-session* feature of Windows Vista so that one person can use the Smart Display and another can use the main computer all at the same time? I think a little bit of special features for the Smart Display can really comfort the poor people who bought this product and ended up with no further enhancements.
Maybe unique features like "mirror" for parents to monitor their kids PC activities? How about something as simple as shared desktop where you share the same session with the person in front of the main computer? Even more simpler is make it into a communications device... just don't let Smart Displays die for good... (anyway MS started all this didn't they?)

IIRC, it was a WinCE device (ie a large PDA) running something based on Remote Desktop. The potential value I saw in it above the Tablet PC is that you wouldn't have to keep a second PC with all the applications you need and copies of all the data and settings you want if your main goal was to just flop down on the couch and surf once in a while instead of having to sit at your desk at all times. Lower cost due to less need for hardware (drives, high end CPUs etc) was also a potential benefit that sadly did not materialize to my satisfaction. After that, the XP Pro requirement and some other gotchas made the device too inconvenient to consider.
I'd still like one done right for the right price.

Nicholas, this is the Windows Vista newsgroup. Here's what we were told in the welcome message:
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-- Nancy Ward 557322 MSN Messenger MVP
<Nicholas> wrote in message

Not that I own one, but I think it's worth noting this. Smart Displays failed because it, other than its expensive price tag and conflicting sales proposition with the much-superior Tablet PC, it forces home users who typically run Windows XP Home Edition to upgrade to Windows XP Professional.
That just ruined the first-time experience with Smart Displays: you gotta upgrade to Pro first to use the device.
Now, is there going to be any *unique* features to *revive* sales and enthusiasm of Smart Displays, inclduing support for the much needed *dual-session* feature of Windows Vista so that one person can use the Smart Display and another can use the main computer all at the same time? I think a little bit of special features for the Smart Display can really comfort the poor people who bought this product and ended up with no further enhancements.
Maybe unique features like "mirror" for parents to monitor their kids PC activities? How about something as simple as shared desktop where you share the same session with the person in front of the main computer? Even more simpler is make it into a communications device... just don't let Smart Displays die for good... (anyway MS started all this didn't they?)

Who made you Moderator, Nancy? (And if you think this is bad, check out IE General!) -- ~PA Bear
NLWard wrote:

Nicholas, this is the Windows Vista newsgroup. Here's what we were told in the welcome message:
Welcome to the Windows Vista General Discussion newsgroup. You can use this newsgroup to discuss general questions about the Windows Vista operating system or to ask questions that don''t fit easily into a more specialized Windows Vista newsgroup.
This newsgroup is intended for Windows Vista users. For newsgroups about earlier versions of Windows, visit the Microsoft Newsgroups website (http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx).
Nicholas> wrote in message Not that I own one, but I think it's worth noting this. Smart Displays failed because it, other than its expensive price tag and conflicting sales proposition with the much-superior Tablet PC, it forces home users who typically run Windows XP Home Edition to upgrade to Windows XP Professional.
That just ruined the first-time experience with Smart Displays: you gotta upgrade to Pro first to use the device.
Now, is there going to be any *unique* features to *revive* sales and enthusiasm of Smart Displays, inclduing support for the much needed *dual-session* feature of Windows Vista so that one person can use the Smart Display and another can use the main computer all at the same time? I think a little bit of special features for the Smart Display can really comfort the poor people who bought this product and ended up with no further enhancements.
Maybe unique features like "mirror" for parents to monitor their kids PC activities? How about something as simple as shared desktop where you share the same session with the person in front of the main computer? Even more simpler is make it into a communications device... just don't let Smart Displays die for good... (anyway MS started all this didn't they?)

"PA Bear" wrote in message

Who made you Moderator, Nancy? (And if you think this is bad, check out IE General!) -- ~PA Bear
NLWard wrote: Nicholas, this is the Windows Vista newsgroup. Here's what we were told in the welcome message:
Welcome to the Windows Vista General Discussion newsgroup. You can use this newsgroup to discuss general questions about the Windows Vista operating system or to ask questions that don''t fit easily into a more specialized Windows Vista newsgroup.
This newsgroup is intended for Windows Vista users. For newsgroups about earlier versions of Windows, visit the Microsoft Newsgroups website (http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx).
Nicholas> wrote in message Not that I own one, but I think it's worth noting this. Smart Displays failed because it, other than its expensive price tag and conflicting sales proposition with the much-superior Tablet PC, it forces home users who typically run Windows XP Home Edition to upgrade to Windows XP Professional.
That just ruined the first-time experience with Smart Displays: you gotta upgrade to Pro first to use the device.
Now, is there going to be any *unique* features to *revive* sales and enthusiasm of Smart Displays, inclduing support for the much needed *dual-session* feature of Windows Vista so that one person can use the Smart Display and another can use the main computer all at the same time? I think a little bit of special features for the Smart Display can really comfort the poor people who bought this product and ended up with no further enhancements.
Maybe unique features like "mirror" for parents to monitor their kids PC activities? How about something as simple as shared desktop where you share the same session with the person in front of the main computer? Even more simpler is make it into a communications device... just don't let Smart Displays die for good... (anyway MS started all this didn't they?)

I'm not a moderator. However, if we fill the newsgroup with off topic stuff, those who are trying to help out are going to be swamped and will just quit trying. It's best to get a new newsgroup off to a good start by following the instructions we were given, which I was merely pointing out.
Sorry I yanked your chain...
-- Nancy Ward MVP MSN Messenger

"Nancy Ward" wrote in message

"PA Bear" wrote in message Who made you Moderator, Nancy? (And if you think this is bad, check out IE General!) -- ~PA Bear
NLWard wrote: Nicholas, this is the Windows Vista newsgroup. Here's what we were told in the welcome message:
Welcome to the Windows Vista General Discussion newsgroup. You can use this newsgroup to discuss general questions about the Windows Vista operating system or to ask questions that don''t fit easily into a more specialized Windows Vista newsgroup.
This newsgroup is intended for Windows Vista users. For newsgroups about earlier versions of Windows, visit the Microsoft Newsgroups website (http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx).
Nicholas> wrote in message Not that I own one, but I think it's worth noting this. Smart Displays failed because it, other than its expensive price tag and conflicting sales proposition with the much-superior Tablet PC, it forces home users who typically run Windows XP Home Edition to upgrade to Windows XP Professional.
That just ruined the first-time experience with Smart Displays: you gotta upgrade to Pro first to use the device.
Now, is there going to be any *unique* features to *revive* sales and enthusiasm of Smart Displays, inclduing support for the much needed *dual-session* feature of Windows Vista so that one person can use the Smart Display and another can use the main computer all at the same time? I think a little bit of special features for the Smart Display can really comfort the poor people who bought this product and ended up with no further enhancements.
Maybe unique features like "mirror" for parents to monitor their kids PC activities? How about something as simple as shared desktop where you share the same session with the person in front of the main computer? Even more simpler is make it into a communications device... just don't let Smart Displays die for good... (anyway MS started all this didn't they?)
I'm not a moderator. However, if we fill the newsgroup with off topic stuff, those who are trying to help out are going to be swamped and will just quit trying. It's best to get a new newsgroup off to a good start by following the instructions we were given, which I was merely pointing out.
Sorry I yanked your chain...
-- Nancy Ward MVP MSN Messenger

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Yeah, Tablets are definitely the better value : )
Touch-screens once unique with Smart Displays will probably merge into Tablets, as suggested with the following document (by the way I reckon you'll find this cool to see)
http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/b/5/5b5bec17-ea71-4653-9539-204a672f11cf/hm-concept.doc
Source: http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/archive/hm-concept.mspx
So I guess Smart Displays simply won't work with Vista from now on? Who knows?
"Andre Da Costa" wrote in message

Yeah, maybe I was mis-intepreting the touch input capabilities with Tablet PC. I remember the advertising on the Microsoft web site years ago, a girl in her bed room with a View Sonic display. The Tablet I would say is a better, value base superior successor its getting more popular and popular each year. -- -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm Nicholas> wrote in message Hi,
As I mentioned I don't own a Smart Display but instead a Tablet, but I do pity the device. hmmm... I don't think the SD has Media Center capabilities (or did you just confuse it with Windows Home Concept?) and it's not quite a Tablet either (it doesn't support Digital Ink in fact), MS called it "the evolution of the monitor", but yes I do believe its based on Remote Desktop using WiFi (so I think you cold bring one to the coffee shop and WiFi all the way back to your home computer (given it's turned on). The end of a great concept, oh well...
"Andre Da Costa" <andred25@hotmail.com :eWW7R4vJGHA.3200@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... I don't think Microsoft has any interest in this technology anymore, it will just fade out when XP is discontinued. Smart Display was just Tablet PC I personally believe with Media Center Capabilities based on Remote Desktop. I think Windows Vista will integrate most of this functionality in the base OS, especially with Tablet PC (Inking) and Media Center capabilities becoming a part of the base OS.
If you are looking for extended functionality for your Smart Display, the manufacturer of the device is best source for continued support and updates. -- -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm Nicholas> wrote in message Not that I own one, but I think it's worth noting this. Smart Displays failed because it, other than its expensive price tag and conflicting sales proposition with the much-superior Tablet PC, it forces home users who typically run Windows XP Home Edition to upgrade to Windows XP Professional.
That just ruined the first-time experience with Smart Displays: you gotta upgrade to Pro first to use the device.
Now, is there going to be any *unique* features to *revive* sales and enthusiasm of Smart Displays, inclduing support for the much needed *dual-session* feature of Windows Vista so that one person can use the Smart Display and another can use the main computer all at the same time? I think a little bit of special features for the Smart Display can really comfort the poor people who bought this product and ended up with no further enhancements.
Maybe unique features like "mirror" for parents to monitor their kids PC activities? How about something as simple as shared desktop where you share the same session with the person in front of the main computer? Even more simpler is make it into a communications device... just don't let Smart Displays die for good... (anyway MS started all this didn't they?)

Yes, XP Pro requirements definitely made it inconvenience to use first-time. And theoritically drawing all the data from the main PC can save all lot of sync hassles.
"Chris Altmann" wrote in message

IIRC, it was a WinCE device (ie a large PDA) running something based on Remote Desktop. The potential value I saw in it above the Tablet PC is that you wouldn't have to keep a second PC with all the applications you need and copies of all the data and settings you want if your main goal was to just flop down on the couch and surf once in a while instead of having to sit at your desk at all times. Lower cost due to less need for hardware (drives, high end CPUs etc) was also a potential benefit that sadly did not materialize to my satisfaction. After that, the XP Pro requirement and some other gotchas made the device too inconvenient to consider.
I'd still like one done right for the right price.